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he's doing it before the election. >> but the gamble was that they would come back home, come re-election, i think by and large you're seeing that. >> we'll see. >> i have to tell you, i have never seen a political candidate repudiate their own base before election day. i understand once people get elected to the presidency different things present themselves and people get disappointed but before the election. i've never seen that. >> ask sister soldier about that, 1992, bill clinton decided to sort of present himself as a different sort of democrat and took on some of the base of his own party. >> he took on one party but he didn't tell african-americans before i get into the white house i'm pushing all of you aside. his moment was against a particular ideology with african-americans. he didn't spurn african-americans outright. >> of course not. >> is there such a thing as half etch a sketching where he get a vague outline of the old drawing and draw over the new one? because maybe that's -- >> i think romney will have two different messages down towards the end, one for the debate crow
he's doing it before the election. >> but the gamble was that they would come back home, come re-election, i think by and large you're seeing that. >> we'll see. >> i have to tell you, i have never seen a political candidate repudiate their own base before election day. i understand once people get elected to the presidency different things present themselves and people get disappointed but before the election. i've never seen that. >> ask sister soldier about that,...
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we're not talking about election day. we're talking about that first debate and in terms of that first debate -- it was completely the opposite of the way it was on election day. watch. >> good evening, i'm tom brokaw with nbc "nightly news." a lot of people in most of the instant polls believe walter mondale won an important battle against president reagan last night. >> in this corner at a feisty 170 pounds, the new heavyweight debater of the world -- >> at a tumultuous rally mondale claimed the debate breathed new life into his campaign. >> today we have a brand new race. today everything is different. >> reporter: while not claiming a flood of overnight conversions, mondale's aides argue millions of voters finally are listening to mondale and rethinking their support for reagan. >> the seemingly unstoppable reagan bandwagon hit a bad rut last night and the president seemed to know it. asked who won the debate as he left kentucky, all he said was, i'm smiling. at a north carolina rally, mr. reagan brought up the debate
we're not talking about election day. we're talking about that first debate and in terms of that first debate -- it was completely the opposite of the way it was on election day. watch. >> good evening, i'm tom brokaw with nbc "nightly news." a lot of people in most of the instant polls believe walter mondale won an important battle against president reagan last night. >> in this corner at a feisty 170 pounds, the new heavyweight debater of the world -- >> at a...
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we have elected democratic governors. i think the coloradoens take a look at the candidate and vote for the person they think will do the best job for colorado and the country. >> it seems to me in watching what i feel like the conversation colorado voters are having with each other is that the president thinks women voters and social issues are the key to the reelection and the romney campaign thinks talking about the deficit is a winner here. what say you? are both on the right track to get to 50? >> i think it depends on which base the two parties are trying to get out. obviously the democratic party with its so-called war on women is trying to make sure it gets the turnout from that element. and my party is looking i think more broadly at the fact that the economy effects men and women. the deficit effects men and women young and old. i would suggest that my party and mitt romney are actually waging a campaign that is trying to address real issues as opposed to issues that really haven't proven to be very operative in
we have elected democratic governors. i think the coloradoens take a look at the candidate and vote for the person they think will do the best job for colorado and the country. >> it seems to me in watching what i feel like the conversation colorado voters are having with each other is that the president thinks women voters and social issues are the key to the reelection and the romney campaign thinks talking about the deficit is a winner here. what say you? are both on the right track to...
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i still think 38 days before the election or something like that. but mitt romney didn't make that argument. and he didn't make it in those swing states. and that's because mitt romney played defense a lot of the first half of this year. whether it was in the primaries or in may, when the primary was finally over, and the obama campaign really started to hit him hard on his bain record. there hasn't an opening or an effective way for him to articulate a vision to turning the economy around. and it shows in the poll numbers. >> lynn, if governor romney can't hang this economy over the president's neck in the next three or four weeks, is there a chance he can beat him? >> of course there is one big blooper from obama, and the mistake may certainly change the trajectory of the campaign. but garrett made a very good point. i want to quickly build on another reason why obama might have dealt with housing today. he's doing his debate prep in a suburb of las vegas. where is he now that it's hard hit? so, again, this is another reason -- a reason he's campe
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than in any of the previously election. that always brings a lot of students out. but they're working very, very hard here, the obama campaign has got a very, very strong game in wisconsin. >> any change in the environment since the recall election versus what's going to happen in five weeks plus? >> i think it has changed tremendously, there was a huge financial advantage for the republicans and the recall. although mitt romney has now begun spending here in wisconsin for many, many weeks, it was really quiet here. and it was only after they chose paul ryan as his vice presidential candidate that he started spending money here. so we're seeing advertising for both camps, so you're also seeing a president making a concerted effort. the president's been here twice in the last three weeks. i'm very confident that he's going to win. >> bill clinton, he's a big factor in the race, he campaigned for you in the recall electi election. >> well, i think he's a great asset and you can send bill clinton anywhere in this country and p
than in any of the previously election. that always brings a lot of students out. but they're working very, very hard here, the obama campaign has got a very, very strong game in wisconsin. >> any change in the environment since the recall election versus what's going to happen in five weeks plus? >> i think it has changed tremendously, there was a huge financial advantage for the republicans and the recall. although mitt romney has now begun spending here in wisconsin for many,...
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i am sure they know the election calendar, the producer is a smart guy, he knows the elections, but by that time, 35% at least of the american public will have already cast a ballot. the remaining 65 or so who have not cast a ballot, if we can squeeze out 1 to 2% undecided, i will be shocked. everybody else will be locked in. and how many of those percentages will be watching the national geographic? i like them, but it is a small audience. >> compared to 67% who watched the debates. >> considering the debates, give me the smart pick, joe biden or paul ryan? who is the smart pick? >> you know, joe biden was a much better debater in 2008 than people remember. so i think if he can avoid gaffes, which is a pretty big "if" with the vp, he should be able to deliver, and paul ryan can be a little too much of a policy wonk. >> let me ask you this, do the vice presidential debates really matter? >> hardly ever, in fact, i can't think of one except the bob dole, remarking about the wars, world war i and ii, but by and large, i don't think they are much more than entertainment, although they're
i am sure they know the election calendar, the producer is a smart guy, he knows the elections, but by that time, 35% at least of the american public will have already cast a ballot. the remaining 65 or so who have not cast a ballot, if we can squeeze out 1 to 2% undecided, i will be shocked. everybody else will be locked in. and how many of those percentages will be watching the national geographic? i like them, but it is a small audience. >> compared to 67% who watched the debates....
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one on election day. now they send out one every two minutes it seems. >> it was all facebook in '08. >> they're on pinterest and twitter and all the different things. >> they're literally on twitter behind us right now. you know, on our big -- this is the live feed for both barack obama and mitt romney. if fact, if you guys are watching, feel free to tweet us here. use the nerdland hash tag. right. you're right. certainly twitter is a platform. >> here's what was good. i was in tampa for the last couple of days, went to three or four field offices in the obama campaign and saw them putting people out on the ground with clip boards going door to door. they figured out how to marry up the old field organizing campaign with the new online campaign to make it all kind of work seamlessly. >> i'll tell you, they're ipads, not clipboards anymore. >> old school. >> we're going new school with ipads and other stuff. what i've seen and amy jo i love your opinions. 140 million facebook users. facebook has people ta
one on election day. now they send out one every two minutes it seems. >> it was all facebook in '08. >> they're on pinterest and twitter and all the different things. >> they're literally on twitter behind us right now. you know, on our big -- this is the live feed for both barack obama and mitt romney. if fact, if you guys are watching, feel free to tweet us here. use the nerdland hash tag. right. you're right. certainly twitter is a platform. >> here's what was good....
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it may not be true in subsequent elections in the state after this, but for this election, it's okay. republicans in the state of pennsylvania tried this year to block you from voting if you don't have a driver's license or another i.d. like that, but they didn't get away with that new law. a judge ruled this week the new rule about i.d. will not be in effect for this election. but yesterday, and this was the scoop, we called the state of pennsylvania and asked some questions about voting there in that state this year. this is what we got. listen to this. it's amazing. remember, legally you can vote even if you don't have an i.d. in pennsylvania in this election. you can. listen. >> thank you for calling the pennsylvania department of state bureau of commissions, elections, and legislation. press one for english. [ speaking in foreign language ] press one for information on pennsylvania's new voter i.d. law. press two for -- [ bleep ] >> hello. all pennsylvania voters will be required to show a photo i.d. before voting at a polling place beginning with the november 2012 general electi
it may not be true in subsequent elections in the state after this, but for this election, it's okay. republicans in the state of pennsylvania tried this year to block you from voting if you don't have a driver's license or another i.d. like that, but they didn't get away with that new law. a judge ruled this week the new rule about i.d. will not be in effect for this election. but yesterday, and this was the scoop, we called the state of pennsylvania and asked some questions about voting there...
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elected officials? >> absolutely. i think there's a level of optimism that immigrant communities feel about the american democracy. >> that's the word i was looking for. >> we're drawn here for very specific reasons. you know, people say that immigrants are hard working. you know, there's billions of people in india that are not -- groups have been self-selected to come to this country and be hard working and be part of this narrative. we see that optoptimism. i want to say something about arizona. it's a place where you can feel and be miserable and depress, but we had an optimistic group of people we trained in arizona. we trained 19 people, most of whom were latinos. four ran for office for school board, state senate and congress. i think that really says something about the strength of our belief in what this country offers. >> it feels to me like you also thought the civil rights movement for african-americans took the opportunity of the franchise to run for office. if you don't like those laws, yo
elected officials? >> absolutely. i think there's a level of optimism that immigrant communities feel about the american democracy. >> that's the word i was looking for. >> we're drawn here for very specific reasons. you know, people say that immigrants are hard working. you know, there's billions of people in india that are not -- groups have been self-selected to come to this country and be hard working and be part of this narrative. we see that optoptimism. i want to say...
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they look back at the last several elections and george w. bush arguably won his two elections with that extra 10% of latinos that he got because that's 1%, 2% of the vote. and those were very close races. similarly with women, i mean if romney does as badly among women in this election as these polls say, it will break a record. i mean we've seen gender gaps of 8, 10, 11% in the last several elections between democrats and republicans, but -- >> 16. >> if it's in the teens that will be a new record. >> and i think karen, we were talking about this during the break, ann romney going out there and saying i love you women. it's not all ann romney's job but such a simplistic strategy with women and then look at as ron brown stein reports a micro targeted strategy to speak to women on issues not just the 47% stuff but the reproductive stuff, speaks to women's paychecks, speaks to their pocketbooks. >> the thing we talk about, months and months ago that the republicans did not understand in terms of this language ability the war on women for women
they look back at the last several elections and george w. bush arguably won his two elections with that extra 10% of latinos that he got because that's 1%, 2% of the vote. and those were very close races. similarly with women, i mean if romney does as badly among women in this election as these polls say, it will break a record. i mean we've seen gender gaps of 8, 10, 11% in the last several elections between democrats and republicans, but -- >> 16. >> if it's in the teens that...
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elect me, i can turn the economy around. but today the rationale for his entire campaign is crumbling. the new job numbers are out and unemployment has dropped to 7.8%. under 8% for the first time since president obama first came into office. that's progress on jobs and that's good for america. but it's absolutely demolishes a favorite romney talking point. >> three years later, unemployment is still above 8%. >> we've gone 41 months with unemployment above 8%. >> we've had 42 straight months with unemployment above 8%. >> still 8% with over 43 straight months. >> today, that talking point disintegrated and president obama has a strong record to campaign on. >> this morning we found out that the unemployment rate has fallen to the lowest level since i took office. but today's news certainly is not an excuse to try to talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> now, governor romney issued a statement today saying, quote, this is not what a real
elect me, i can turn the economy around. but today the rationale for his entire campaign is crumbling. the new job numbers are out and unemployment has dropped to 7.8%. under 8% for the first time since president obama first came into office. that's progress on jobs and that's good for america. but it's absolutely demolishes a favorite romney talking point. >> three years later, unemployment is still above 8%. >> we've gone 41 months with unemployment above 8%. >> we've had 42...
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we cover elections, not economics generally, but ronald reagan was re-elected with a 7.2% because he said it was the morning in america. optimism was what he sold. he was able to say 7.2% is great news, great news. he got re-elected with 49 states. he lost minnesota and the district of columbia with 7.2%. what should obama get with 7.8%? it seems like it's within the range there and everybody is pooh-poohing it and, oh, geez. i know why jack welch is scared, that number is too damn close to reagan's number. >> i think how this works with the president's narrative is that we're moving in the right direction, don't change -- you know, don't change horses, don't go back to a playbook that demonstrably didn't work, the george bush supply side stuff that he can legitimately tie to mitt romney. he had a narrative that said the economy is moving in the right direction, and i think this job report actually strengthens that narrative. and much more than levels of variables like the level of the employment rate, it's momentum that i think forms voters' views on the economy. >> i think it was i
we cover elections, not economics generally, but ronald reagan was re-elected with a 7.2% because he said it was the morning in america. optimism was what he sold. he was able to say 7.2% is great news, great news. he got re-elected with 49 states. he lost minnesota and the district of columbia with 7.2%. what should obama get with 7.8%? it seems like it's within the range there and everybody is pooh-poohing it and, oh, geez. i know why jack welch is scared, that number is too damn close to...
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to a general election audience. and karen knows this far better than i do. when you're in the democratic primary, if you listen to the barack obama that ran against hillary clinton, it sounds very different than the barack obama that ran against john mccain. they've got to run against -- because if they compare those positions that romney has now, the way he performed in the debate the other night and compare that to barack obama's record, then we're going to be inaugurating president romney in november or january. >> but did you just say that mitt romney very specifically said one thing during his primary and something very different after the nomination? is that what you just said? >> what i said was, i think they're the same comments made to different audiences. that's an important distinctions. look, i'll be honest with you. i did not vote for mitt romney in the primary. mitt romney is not as conservative as i believe i would like our next president to believe. having said that, the mitt romney you saw on the st
to a general election audience. and karen knows this far better than i do. when you're in the democratic primary, if you listen to the barack obama that ran against hillary clinton, it sounds very different than the barack obama that ran against john mccain. they've got to run against -- because if they compare those positions that romney has now, the way he performed in the debate the other night and compare that to barack obama's record, then we're going to be inaugurating president romney in...
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. >> there's no question your campaign has been trying to make this election a referendum on barack obama. now, some people are saying you are making it a referendum on paul ryan's budget plan. >> well, i have my budget plan, as you know, that i've put out. and that's the budget plan that we're going to run on. >> and again, this sunday romney had to distance himself from ryan's positions and assert that he's the man at the top of the ticket. let's listen. >> the president's cutting $716 billion from current medicare. i disagree with that. i would put those dollars back into medicare. >> mr. ryan has proposed something similar, almost precisely the same number. >> he was going to use that money to reduce the budget deficit. i'm putting it back into medicare and i'm the guy running for president. >> what a miserable time he has. he put the guy on the ticket. >> i remember when this happened. when he put ryan on the ticket, a lot of democrats said okay, it's over. we've got it. and i was skeptical about that. when they said it. and i think a lot of us who like to hear intellectual debates a
. >> there's no question your campaign has been trying to make this election a referendum on barack obama. now, some people are saying you are making it a referendum on paul ryan's budget plan. >> well, i have my budget plan, as you know, that i've put out. and that's the budget plan that we're going to run on. >> and again, this sunday romney had to distance himself from ryan's positions and assert that he's the man at the top of the ticket. let's listen. >> the...
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about a week prior to the election, james t. blaine appeared at a republican rally and a pastor said the republican party was the party of rum, romance and rebellion. this galvanized the democratic party to come out against james t. blaine because blaine did not disassociate himself from those remarks. of course, they associated it with alcoholism. blaine lost that election and lost that state by 1,047 votes. >> gosh. >> had he decided to disassociate himself from those remarks history may have been a lot different. >> that's incredible. you think about it now when presidential candidates drink with people in bars so they can prove they're the every man. all do beer and a shot from time to time. >> even hillary clinton enjoys shots. >> there's nothing wrong with that. 1968 richard nixon facing hugh hubert humphrey. mitt romney didn't want to appear on "snl." he was worried about it not seeming presidential. let's show nixon's moment. >> sock it to me? >> we know happened as a result. >> that was five seconds that could have chan
about a week prior to the election, james t. blaine appeared at a republican rally and a pastor said the republican party was the party of rum, romance and rebellion. this galvanized the democratic party to come out against james t. blaine because blaine did not disassociate himself from those remarks. of course, they associated it with alcoholism. blaine lost that election and lost that state by 1,047 votes. >> gosh. >> had he decided to disassociate himself from those remarks...
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>> yes. >> elected in the elections since the fall of mubarak has been proposing blasphamy laws. basically, you can't do certain things, certain kinds of speech, you know that are derogatory to muhammad. what is your thought? >> i agree with the right to offend. when you look at pakistan or any other part of the country, it comes up a lot in pakistan. they use tools. i reject. that's why i was telling the woman in the video, i'm using speech. i want to discuss, what is protected speech. if you have the right to be racist, where does my right end to respond to a racism and bigotry. i want to silence minorities and people who don't agree with the government. >> an argument i heard is that our -- in the last 30 or 40 years, there's a lot before that during periods of scares that was tolerant of fairly severe limitations. you hear people and i heard a great mpr report of folks in tunisia, look, in europe, you cannot deny the holocaust. there's all kinds of restrictio restrictions. why can't we draw the red lines? >> you heard earlier from president obama a wonderful defense of americ
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there's no question they shape how we recommend the elections. we all thought about this and came up with a signature moment from debates past. i'll lead it off. i had a lot that came to my mind, but one stands out from 1992. bill clinton and george bush sr. and ross perot. it was the first die bait that year. the back story was george bush won the white house by sort of playing on patriotism themes. flag burns issues like this. really in my ways seemed to question dukakis's pati patriot. here comes bill clinton. he was at oxford during the vietnam war and participating in protests over there. george bush sr. on the campaign trail and the republicans started to play this up and coming close to questioning the patriotism of xwlibill clinton. bush brought it up and they went to clinton for a response. they think it can work here again. this is when we learned what a great and masterful communicator bill clinton is. this is how he handled it. >> i honor your service in world war ii. i honor mr. perot's service in the uniform and the service of any m
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landon tweeted one thing is for sure, one liners and zingers are not going to win this election. here's one from mario, pretty sure obama will knock that debate out of the park. and dan tweeted, one can hope but it will be a drawp. people will hear what they want to hear. most minds were made up months ago. if this year's election were judged on the ability to keep things interesting on the campaign trail joe biden would win hands down. his speeches are not the only part of the equationp. there is the matter of his sex appeal. take a look at this. >> since i've been here a number of times over the last 20 years, i knew it was going to be -- you mind if i take my coat off with your permission? thank you. all right. >> check out the buysep flex -- are we really going to show a bisep flex? we missed it. okay. close your eyes. okay. the vp's allure is the subject of a new piece in politico. politico senior washington, d.c. correspondent jonathan allen wrote it and joins me now. jonathan, we did miss the bicep shot, paul ryan has the px 90 thing going on. we've seen the example of joe
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you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. 38 days until election day. four days until the first presidential debate. but these are the numbers that are really bearing down on the gop nominee. these are mitt romney's likability numbers in six key battleground stat states. topping our political headlines, mitt romney going after president obama on foreign policy today. in his weekly podcast, romney said the president is fumbling his response to events in the middle east. >> this week, when president obama was asked about the recent disruption and chaos and violence in the middle east, he said that these were merely
you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. 38 days until election day. four days until the first presidential debate. but these are the numbers that are really bearing down on the gop nominee. these are mitt romney's likability numbers in six key battleground stat states. topping our political headlines, mitt romney going after president obama on foreign policy today. in his weekly podcast, romney said the president is fumbling his response to events in the middle east. >> this week,...
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our presidential elections are generally speaking, not about the past, but about the future. that's number one. so, in case of the narrative. number two, that we know that in politics as in so much else in life, after these debates are over, there will be a lot of people who can tell you specifically what any candidate said, but they will know how that candidate made them feel. so, the object and target for both candidates in the debates is for people to walk away feeling the person who handled it best. certainly people they want specifics, so governor romney, he needs to tell how with some detail his administration will be different from not just the obama administration, but from the president bush. with president obama, his challenge is to spell out to people. tell them how things are going to be different. in his second term than they were in his first term without acknowledging that the first term was necessarily bad, but people don't want same old same old. they want a vision of the future and we've come away to say the end comment at the debates tonight may be the most
our presidential elections are generally speaking, not about the past, but about the future. that's number one. so, in case of the narrative. number two, that we know that in politics as in so much else in life, after these debates are over, there will be a lot of people who can tell you specifically what any candidate said, but they will know how that candidate made them feel. so, the object and target for both candidates in the debates is for people to walk away feeling the person who handled...
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but -- >> you can only make the case that really three presidential elections of the modern elections, the debates really played an important role. 1980 was one of those. >> 1960. >> 1960 and probably gerald ford's election where he said that the eastern europe was not -- or poland was not dominated by the soviet union, made some difference in a close election. but this is going to be a close election. in spite of what you see in some of the polls, some are close now, the fundamental dynamics of this race are quite close and so its could make a difference in this race. >> thank you so much. >>> up next, is iraq unraveling? a look at where the u.s. policy stands now, next on "andrea mitchell reports." we make a simple thing. a thing that helps you buy other things. but plenty of companies do that. so we make something else. we help make life a little easier, more convenient, more rewarding, more entertaining. year after year. it's the reason why we don't have customers. we have members. american express. welcome in. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medica
but -- >> you can only make the case that really three presidential elections of the modern elections, the debates really played an important role. 1980 was one of those. >> 1960. >> 1960 and probably gerald ford's election where he said that the eastern europe was not -- or poland was not dominated by the soviet union, made some difference in a close election. but this is going to be a close election. in spite of what you see in some of the polls, some are close now, the...
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i'll start with an elected official. the people that worked for the president had to come out and say he did well. everyone else said he didn't. >> i was in the hall so i can say i haven't seen it on tv. but on the substance, in colorado, we're a third republican and a third democratic and a third independent and we don't like people to say one thing in boston, one in denver and one thing in rural and one thing in urban and i think we heard more of that from mitt romney. >> who called him on that? we went an hour and a half before i went -- a couple days ago he talked about the pre-existing coverage and now you're saying you have a program and i'm going to take nationally based on the principles of massachusetts. >> i'll you another example that infuriates me. this $716 billion medicare issue in ryan's plan. >> the number? >> yeah. romney tonight said the reason he thinks we ought to have a voucher system for medicare is government never does anything efficiently and the first thing he says about the reform is he's takin
i'll start with an elected official. the people that worked for the president had to come out and say he did well. everyone else said he didn't. >> i was in the hall so i can say i haven't seen it on tv. but on the substance, in colorado, we're a third republican and a third democratic and a third independent and we don't like people to say one thing in boston, one in denver and one thing in rural and one thing in urban and i think we heard more of that from mitt romney. >> who...
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. >>> it is just five weeks until election day, and the stakes could not be higher. with both candidates hunkered down in last-minute debate preparations. mitt romney is out in the mile high city carb loading at chipotle today. >> how are you doing? >> are you ready for tomorrow? >> hi there. getting there. how are you? >> getting there. just giving him another six years. indeed, you know what mitt romney's been working hard, maybe fighting for a little air when he goes on a nostalgic riff. in this case the rocky mountains are just the right height. >> when avis boy my mom and dad used to read to me from a book called "men to match my mountains." perhaps we should change the title to "men and women to match my mountains" because right here men and women have matched the mountains of colorado. >> he's really working on the zingers. we see what you did there, mitt, adding women into the mix. nice. anything to do with the president's 18-point lead with women putting him four points above romney nationwide? no, i'm sure not. by the way, the same poll shows voters expect
. >>> it is just five weeks until election day, and the stakes could not be higher. with both candidates hunkered down in last-minute debate preparations. mitt romney is out in the mile high city carb loading at chipotle today. >> how are you doing? >> are you ready for tomorrow? >> hi there. getting there. how are you? >> getting there. just giving him another six years. indeed, you know what mitt romney's been working hard, maybe fighting for a little air when...
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barack obama was never elected president. acorn put him in there. >> i think that's the universal impulse. the question is whether it's being cultivated or not. >> i want to say one thing about the difficulties of figuring out how many jobs are really being created. it's not an easy thing as you were saying. one of the problems is that when you turn the economy from, you know, sort of normal growth to either a turning point going up or down, the statistics have a real difficulty. one of the reasons is that the surveys go to typically establish enterprises. >> right. >> but when you have the turning point you're creating new turning points. you're not going to survey those because you don't know where they are. and that's where the household survey picks up things that are not in the establishment survey. >> right. >> on the other hand, one of the real problems is that we have what you call seasonal adjustments because there's a pattern over the year. before christmas we create normally more jobs. as we go into the summer, col
barack obama was never elected president. acorn put him in there. >> i think that's the universal impulse. the question is whether it's being cultivated or not. >> i want to say one thing about the difficulties of figuring out how many jobs are really being created. it's not an easy thing as you were saying. one of the problems is that when you turn the economy from, you know, sort of normal growth to either a turning point going up or down, the statistics have a real difficulty....
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and that's what this election is about. it was the substance of the debate that i think mattered most, the competing view of what is best for getting our country going again. do we want to have, you know, $2 trillion in tax increases hitting the middle class at $4,000 per, you know, per family? or are we going to have tax relief for the middle class? are we going to bring down rates and broaden the base to get economic growth going again? are we going to continue to have higher health insurance premiums under obamacare as we've seen in the past four years, or are we going to have market-oriented reforms that will inject competition that will hold costs down? it was a is he substantive debate last night, and i think that's why governor romney did so well, because a lot of people saw him for the first time, not in a 30-second attack ad or a 12-second snippet on the news, but got to hear him directly. i think it was a good thing. >> well, you certainly are going to be hearing from the obama campaign today. we heard it from dav
and that's what this election is about. it was the substance of the debate that i think mattered most, the competing view of what is best for getting our country going again. do we want to have, you know, $2 trillion in tax increases hitting the middle class at $4,000 per, you know, per family? or are we going to have tax relief for the middle class? are we going to bring down rates and broaden the base to get economic growth going again? are we going to continue to have higher health insurance...
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before the election. this sort of thing does happen from time to time. economists know this. and they say this is not really that unusual. it is really silly and it's almost outlandish to think that the several dozen staff people who are career people, not political appointees at the bureau of labor statistics somehow polluted or had a conspiracy to cook numbers. my guess is we are going to get one more jobs rot before the november election, november 2nd four days before the election. my guess is that one is going to fix some of the anomalies in this report. and the unemployment rate could very well go back up above 8% in that report. because again, something's a little bit off about these numbers. but these are going to get smoothed out over time. oftentimes it takes a couple months before they recount, go over it. >> but you've been writing that the economy seems to be going president obama's way and the question is can mitt romney win without it turning his. if four or five days before the election we
before the election. this sort of thing does happen from time to time. economists know this. and they say this is not really that unusual. it is really silly and it's almost outlandish to think that the several dozen staff people who are career people, not political appointees at the bureau of labor statistics somehow polluted or had a conspiracy to cook numbers. my guess is we are going to get one more jobs rot before the november election, november 2nd four days before the election. my guess...
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by the way, this isn't about this election. this is about what happens after this election. how does this president -- >> exactly. >> -- after saying to the republicans, i'm going to cut medicare, which, again, is a responsible thing to do, the only thing you can do if you want to save the program, how can this president then get re-elected and go back to boehner and go, you know what? i said i'd cut medicare, and then i demagogued it and attacked you guys on the campaign. >> well, in his own words, he said it's bad politics to not draw a distinction. now, there is somewhat of a distinction, in fairness, but he is proposing cutting medicare. and anyone -- this is not a economists from the left or the right. this is beyond politics. this is arithmetic, as bill clinton said. >> basic math. >> it's unsustainable. you've got to do something about it. >> it's about telling the truth. go ahead, sam. >> i think this was supported in your book, which is that at the time of that grand bargain, there was a lot of concern among democrats that paul ryan would come out with this budget,
by the way, this isn't about this election. this is about what happens after this election. how does this president -- >> exactly. >> -- after saying to the republicans, i'm going to cut medicare, which, again, is a responsible thing to do, the only thing you can do if you want to save the program, how can this president then get re-elected and go back to boehner and go, you know what? i said i'd cut medicare, and then i demagogued it and attacked you guys on the campaign. >>...
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romney will be in good shape for the november election. if the debates are not enough to flip the polls in plm mr. romne favor, he would have to pull off a modern american miracle to win the election in november. chuck todd joins us from the debate site at the university of denver. chuck, what are you watching for tonight? >> the buzz word, the buzz phrase of "middle class." essentially, the reason romney is behind is because he's been losing that attribute to president obama by double-digit margins. i think it's been the most important attribute of the campaign, because it explains why is the president in a tough economic times, why has he been winning or at least neutralizing the economic argument and staying ahead in the polls. it's because he has been winning that attribute, if you will, of who's more in touch with the middle class, who looking out for the middle class. obviously, 47% was a huge body blow to romney. he was already in a deficit on this issue, of not being, looking out for the middle guy. so that, to me, is sort of how d
romney will be in good shape for the november election. if the debates are not enough to flip the polls in plm mr. romne favor, he would have to pull off a modern american miracle to win the election in november. chuck todd joins us from the debate site at the university of denver. chuck, what are you watching for tonight? >> the buzz word, the buzz phrase of "middle class." essentially, the reason romney is behind is because he's been losing that attribute to president obama by...
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in this election we are drive ing forward, not back. let's reelect the great president barack obama. >> that is just the most fantastic thing i have ever seen. >> you have to appreciate a speaker who signs the speech while she's delivering. orally. we are driving forward. >> that was incredible. >> you worked with her. >> i worked with her. that's not the jennifer gramhome i knew. >> maybe she was just excited. >> clearly. >> tomorrow morning on this very program, bob woodward and mika's dad. >>> still ahead this morning, the candidates for u.s. senate take the stage in massachusetts. we'll have details and clips when we come back. ask me what it's like when my tempur-pedic moves. [ male announcer ] why not talk to someone who owns an adjustable version of the most highly recommended bed in america? ask me about my tempur advanced ergo. goes up. goes up. ask me what it's like to get a massage anytime you want. goes down. goes down. [ male announcer ] tempur-pedic brand owners are more satisfied than owners of any traditional mattress br
in this election we are drive ing forward, not back. let's reelect the great president barack obama. >> that is just the most fantastic thing i have ever seen. >> you have to appreciate a speaker who signs the speech while she's delivering. orally. we are driving forward. >> that was incredible. >> you worked with her. >> i worked with her. that's not the jennifer gramhome i knew. >> maybe she was just excited. >> clearly. >> tomorrow morning on...
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they matter in every election, they either reinforce a narrative in the election meaning we think we're going to vote for president obama. president obama does well in that debate and it reinforces that. or it reinforces the opposite. if you're governor rom any, he did very well in the debates and i think president obama is a good debater, not a great debater, to be frank about it. but the expectations game and the reality of what he has to accomplish is he has to go out there and change minds. and he has to do it when the fact is, when this is republicans ignored. they know him. they don't like his policies. >> go ahead, joe. >> i think that chris makes a great point. the 1980, ronald reagan really changed the course of the debate and helped himself by saying to americans, think back, are you better off today than you were four years ago, is it easier to get a job, are there fewer of you that are unemployed and by getting the american folks to concentrate on that as opposed to how much they like president carter really helped. >> that's a variation of the question that the romney campa
they matter in every election, they either reinforce a narrative in the election meaning we think we're going to vote for president obama. president obama does well in that debate and it reinforces that. or it reinforces the opposite. if you're governor rom any, he did very well in the debates and i think president obama is a good debater, not a great debater, to be frank about it. but the expectations game and the reality of what he has to accomplish is he has to go out there and change minds....
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this is a debate to win the election. i'm sorry, it may have been disappointing, but there was something else going on. you have the jobs numbers coming out at 8:30 this morning in just a couple of hours. you have a lot of other things at play, and he's in a certain position in this race. there must have been, as flummoxing as it was to watch, a strategy. what was it? >> i haven't said this for a very long time. i'll say it again, though. debates are where you show your depth of understanding about politics. i've seen 1,000 debates. i've participated in, you know, scores of debates. and you know immediately. you can just look around the stage at the people to the left and the right of you, how deep can they go? by the way, they pick up on your eyes while you're looking across at them. there were a couple guys where a guy was about to do a cheap shot on me, and i'd lean in and go, you want to? let's go. and they'd back off immediately. barack obama. it happened with hillary clinton time and time again where hillary clinton
this is a debate to win the election. i'm sorry, it may have been disappointing, but there was something else going on. you have the jobs numbers coming out at 8:30 this morning in just a couple of hours. you have a lot of other things at play, and he's in a certain position in this race. there must have been, as flummoxing as it was to watch, a strategy. what was it? >> i haven't said this for a very long time. i'll say it again, though. debates are where you show your depth of...
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he still loses the election. you can't just win on election day anymore. i mean, it starts this week, really. >> well, let's go to iowa where paul ryan will be campaigning today. "the des moines register" has the president leading 49% to 45% among likely voters, just 2% are undecided. those numbers are raising the stakes for the romney campaign ahead of wednesday's debate in denver. and right now expectations seem to be with the president. 55% of likely voters expect him to win the debate, according to polling from a the washington post and abc news. >> a poll that means absolutely nothing. >> it's good for romney. >> because he's got lower expectations. >> underdog. >> i guess so. >> and people could be surprised simply by seeing them side by side. i mean, the symbolism, the symbiotics i don't think can be overstated. seeing them side by side, if romney does well, i think he'll get a bump no matter what the sort of intricacies are. just side by side with the president in terms of stature and in terms of people thinking he can win, on equal footing. >> wil
he still loses the election. you can't just win on election day anymore. i mean, it starts this week, really. >> well, let's go to iowa where paul ryan will be campaigning today. "the des moines register" has the president leading 49% to 45% among likely voters, just 2% are undecided. those numbers are raising the stakes for the romney campaign ahead of wednesday's debate in denver. and right now expectations seem to be with the president. 55% of likely voters expect him to win...